A brief discussion on the comparison of experience between Passat and BMW 5 Series

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 August 19, 2024

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The Passat is the 11 top-equipped 1.8T model that has been driving for 10 years and has run 97000 kilometers. The BMW 5-Series is a 20-model 525Li sports suit that runs 28000 kilometers after two years of driving. The following is to talk about the experience of the use of the two cars. First of all, the Passat, the supreme version of Passat, is the top model, and the configuration is very high at the same level at that time, with leather and flipped foreskin seats, electric seat belt with waist support, co-driver’s boss key, main seat with memory, four electric heating; window up and down (four doors), rear sunshade, electric skylight; automatic headlights, steering headlights (this is very applicable), headlights cleaning. Keyless entry, keyless startup (very convenient), constant speed cruise, 18-inch wheel hub (exclusive to the supreme version) and other configurations (that’s all I can remember). When I bought it at that time, I liked the configuration. As for why I spent more than 300,000 on the ground but bought 1.8T instead of 2.0T, to tell you the truth, I was fooled by the sales. How did I cheat? I’ll talk about it later. At that time, there was a standard 2.0T model that was 1.5W cheaper than 1.8T supreme, and some people said that you bought 1.8T supreme for configuration, which is true, but the 2.0T supreme version is only more than 1.8T supreme 1.5W, a road 31W and a road less than 32W, so why not choose the more reliable 6-speed wet clutch? (Zhuge Liang afterwards?), that’s the problem. At that time, the concept of double clutch just came out. Volkswagen used double clutch on its own car for the first time, forming a golden combination of double clutch + turbine engine. At that time, the sales told me that this was 7 speed, 2.0T was 6 speed, and the direct 7 speed crush 6 speed, that would really do not understand the double clutch transmission. The sales said that in fact, there is a power gap of nearly 2W yuan between the two supreme versions. I think so. After the test drive of the two cars, there was indeed a little difference in power. I immediately set 1.8T, and I was happy (saved money) at that time. As we all know, 7-speed double clutch incidents abound, but I am very glad that my car only recalled and upgraded the software. There is nothing wrong with the gearbox and electromechanical control unit, and the gearbox has been renewed with 4S. In fact, this generation of Passat is indeed a good car with a solid chassis. So far, the driving texture of this car is not much worse than that of the 5-Series. Enough to see how much Volkswagen wanted to move to the Camry and Accord and get the top card of this level? And then I did.
Let’s talk about the feeling of using the car, the space of the car is good, especially the vertical space, it can be said to exceed this level, even if it is comparable to the 20 5-series (by comparison, the main 5-series is rear-drive, the front is too long and the rear is also long). Horizontal is slightly narrower than the 5-series. The seat is soft and hard, but the sitting feeling is very good, the seat wrapping feeling is stronger than the 5 series, the seat adjustment can easily find his comfortable position, driving, the direction is not very light type, but the feel is very good, although it is also electronic power, but the feel is similar to the mechanical hydraulic power, it is very smooth and steady, the chassis is thick and solid, shock absorber is very comfortable, sound insulation is good (but it is worse than the 5 series. Coupled with the 10-year-old car, the sealant strip must have aging phenomenon), the stereo must be said, brand audio (what name forgotten), the sound quality is very good, much better than the 5-series stereo. To sum up, this car is a very good car, and it may also be the most successful Passat of Volkswagen, but I have an Achilles’ heel in the gearbox. Let’s talk about this 7-speed dry double-clutch gearbox. The only place that is better than the 6-speed wet type is that there is an extra gear (no nonsense). To drive this car, it is necessary to get off a little hot, especially in winter for 1-2 minutes (garage parking is better). Then hang into the D gear and start slowly, do not step on the throttle deeply, otherwise there will be continuous jitter. After the car reaches the normal working temperature, you should also slowly step on the throttle. When the gear is up to 4, you can step on the throttle very hard. It will not wobble any more, but there is a point that if the big throttle or S gear has finished driving intensively and then starts again, slowly stepping on the throttle will have one or two shakes, which means that the gearbox begins to overheat. This means to give you a break and let it take a breath. another situation is that it is the most fatal to climb a steep slope with a lot of speed reducers, and it will be good to pull S-gear or manual mode directly. Otherwise, the gearbox will definitely shiver when you start refueling after the deceleration belt. This gearbox can’t be scolded, you have to treat it well, maintain it regularly, and occasionally put on the S-gear to get naughty. After that, we still need to cruise slowly and let him dissipate heat. I observed that this gearbox has this kind of problem. The first is the design problem of the gearbox itself. The gearbox is very small (a little larger than the van gearbox), and the cost is very low. It also belongs to the dry grinding type, traffic jams, violent driving and so on are easy to overheat, and it is easy to skid when starting after overheating. There is something wrong with the computer logic of the second gearbox or the low gear ratio of the gearbox itself. After observing it for a long time, I found that the engine speed of the gearbox is sometimes no more than 1000 rpm (usually about 1000 rpm). People who have driven manual gears all know that if you change gears 1 to 2 gears, if your speed is too low, there will be a loss of gear, that is, the engine speed is too low and the lack of torque leads to low transmission efficiency of the gearbox. Trailer continuous jitter, I believe many people have experienced this problem, 7-speed dry double clutch most of the jitter is this kind of situation, it is very annoying.
In short, Passat is very good except for the gearbox!
With regard to the BMW 5-Series, it has been driving for 2 years, and this generation of cars is much better than the previous generation, especially in terms of sound insulation, interior decoration and driving texture. The car ordered in December 19 said that the car must have been mentioned a year ago. It was originally a 530Li carbon black car paint. As a result, the day before last, he told me that he could not drive a car a few years ago. He said that a 525Li black car would come the next week, which was ordered by his colleague’s client, because his colleague client had been applying for a loan. However, the car would arrive soon, indicating that it might not be ready for a while. He said that the car was directly elected to install the front seat heating at that time. Without optional ventilation, waist support and leg support, if you were in a hurry, he transferred his colleague’s car to me. I went to the store to find a 525 test drive for half an hour, but the power was slightly lower. I couldn’t feel it at all when I opened in the city. It was very fierce to step on the throttle and speed up after 100. I felt for the first time that the original automatic transmission could be so casually stepped on and so smooth (), I would go to the store to renegotiate the price. Successfully mentioned the car a week later. Needless to say, everyone has the same car. First of all, the car is spacious in all directions, and the back seat cushion is also long. I need to complain a little bit. Can BMW make the seat fill a little softer? it hurts when you drive for more than an hour. I don’t know why the main driving seat can not be adjusted to its comfortable position. The waist and cervical vertebrae are always uncomfortable, and the feel of direction is what I don’t like and don’t understand. Playing in this direction is like someone wrestling with you, very axial, driving accustomed to the left hand to hit the direction, open 5 series is not good, one hand opened for a while unconsciously two hands open, once my partner said why you are more and more like a novice, driving how two hands to support the direction, I do not understand that BMW thinks this kind of hand steering is a sense of manipulation? Why do I think it’s not as good as 1/10000 mechanical and hydraulic power? This set of direction feels easier only when driving fast. Who can always drive such a big car and keep drilling the seams? I got a tennis elbow on my left arm, and I couldn’t even hold my cell phone. I didn’t know why at first. I went to the hospital to check that it was tennis elbow, which was often caused by the same action with my left hand (this worried me to death. I can’t remember what I did. I also carried heavy things). It hurt for more than 3 months, and it didn’t work even if I took too many drugs (scared me to go to the hospital for a comprehensive examination). 5 series can not be opened directly. It hurts in a dozen directions. I can only hit the direction with my right hand. It hurts when I put my left hand there (on the doorknob and leg). Later, I couldn’t open Passat every day. After a month, the left forearm actually didn’t hurt. As a result, I drove back to Passat for two weeks. I drove back to Passat. I repeatedly concluded that the five series must be played with both hands, especially if I ran a long way with one hand, and my arm could not stand it. The 5 series is dissatisfied with these two points of seat and direction feel, the rest are very good, especially the gearbox is so good, no matter the endurance and smoothness are top, the problem family reaction is also quick, it is said that the shift speed is comparable to the world’s best double clutch transmission PDK (Porsche has never been driven, it is said to be a setback, but top endurance, random ejection) Can make a 1.7t only 184hp 290m 525li 0-1 speed up to about 8 seconds, really OK, many people spray 525 weak power, in fact, seconds off Festa, Civic is not difficult, running is all-out, 525 S+SPORT mode + ejection, that is, (S+ mode ejection) can easily handle the original Festa and Civic, not to mention after 100 The reason why many people say that the 525 is so expensive can not run more than a hundred thousand cars, to put it bluntly, they really do not want to argue with these ghost teenagers. Another point is that the different forms of drive lead to the attitude and driver’s feelings of the 5-series when the 5-series accelerates at full speed. The 5-series driving texture is thick and steady, it can be said that it is smooth and stable, and the improvement of sound insulation (most of the noise comes from the explosion-proof tire), which reveals the original sound of the 5-series (it can not be said to be very bad, if it is not a professional ear, it sounds OK).
For me, if the 5 series could make the seat more comfortable and less axle, it would be perfect.
There is not a picture of Passat in the phone (I really don’t like the new and hate the old)!

At that time, this color looked good, but now it is not as good as black.

The maintenance of the car is very good and the paint is very bright.

The 18-inch 245 wide tire looks good for this class of cars.

In July 11, the car ran 106000 kilometers, which was really not much, more than 7,000 kilometers a year, because at that time I was driving with another car, and I still liked to drive more cars from the southeast Mitsubishi, and then I drove with the 5 Series.

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